This undermines the teaching of your child and shows that kid that when you are in public, they are free to do as they please. If my kids can sit quietly through a whole movie, I don’t see why they should have to tolerate poor behaviour from other kids anymore than an adult should. My husband, mom, kids (4 and 2) and I (very pregnant) went. I don’t expect things to be perfect, but I do expect common courtesy. I’ll definitely be visiting that place again when we vacation there again, however, it’ll probably be for a special date with just my husband and I. They are people too, and adults need to remember they were kids once too. For the most part it’s not pretty. Parents, we have major influence with our pocket books…don’t buy from those who ban kids! Don’t expect that you can bring your child anywhere you want, have them behave anyway they want and other people should just accept the behavior. They will make noise. But then, that’s not really living is it? I think that most often, annoying children are the result of poor parenting. We would never leave our child in the hands of a stranger so why do it in a store. He was sound asleep not making a single peep. He was so fussy during the first part of the flight until he was able to fall asleep, but not so fussy that people were getting nasty. When dinner is upwards of $30 a plate I do not want to sit next to a 4 year old. I agree with what you are saying here, Jessica from Canada! I imagine that life in public with kids will become one giant, sticky ball pit. It is great. Now not all kids are wild and rambunctious when they shouldn’t but a lot are, I was out shopping yesterday and I’d say at least a 1/4 of the kids I saw were behaving in ways that I would never let my 2 (15 and 6). At first glance, I read this post and thought–“Much of this is straight up discrimination–right up there with race/class discrimination.” (The movie theatre stuff is the exception–I live in Austin and love their Tuesday Baby Days.) I never had an issue in Austin but back in Vancouver, I got yelled at a lot because my child yelled out once in a restaurant that had only one other table besides ours. My daughters are 19 and 16 now and while I understand some of the new “rules” I don’t agree with all of them. Yet. As for the comment about government intervention in other countries (like China) I’m not sure that’s the logical conclusion of private businesses laying down guidelines that should be common sense. I haven’t read the comments but I do think that anyone who considers this “persecution” doesn’t have any idea what persecution really is. When we go out alone we often make choices about when and where to make sure we have an adult experience. If you want to give your customers a pleasant shopping experience and still be family-friendly, then offer a complimentary staffed kid-zone. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn’t. And if that means that you don’t take a 2 year old to certain places or at certain times of the day (ie their nap time when you know they are going to be cranky) then you don’t take them. We have had to have our meal packed up more than once because of a failed outing…but that’s our problem, not the other patrons. the parent is lacking in emotional maturity how are they going to Could it be that businesses are creating “kid free zones” because parents are abdicating their responsibility? First things first, I love you blog/s. I have absolutely no problem with this. because the idea was so foreign. They have TVs right outside where you can sit with your little ones and hear the message. I have two girls, now 21 and almost 18. I see a kid free zone as a great thing but only to a degree. When my kids were younger, there were places I didn’t take them because I knew it would be tough on them to keep up the behavior expected in a place. And I think it is ok to want adults only time. This is exactly what I think — it’s age discrimination. But I’ve seen this happen, and I don’t blame the child. I know, because mine is grown now and I miss my little boy. However, when that occurs we remove the child from the situation for “chill time” so that no one has to “tolerate” their behavior, myself included. My hubby works out of state during the week and I need to take them with me EVERYWHERE. LOVE. Have special toys/books that they can only have during outings. I ENJOY my children and they are learning how to be responsible adults by going places with me. You become a hypocrite. but its hard to apply that for the first time when they are lets say 4… When will the insanity end? Do you say something? Let the businesses that want to cater to adults only be able to do so. Exactly!!! If more parents were willing to ‘parent’ rather than do as they please with kids in tow, I would have more trouble with these policies. Personally I’m very happy to have the option of child-care (as in IKEA Smaland) but on the whole I think people should be more tolerant of parents and children in communal spaces. On one hand, I think it’s sad that many people seem to view children as another thing to check off of their list of things they want to do (and no more important than getting a puppy). However, I don’t think you need to banned kids, parents need to have more common sense. it says kids are an inconvenience. I have to say that I’m not completely surprised at this. I would shop there more if the attendants had a little heart. At the same time we also don’t take them to an upscale fancy restaurant. Her boy, who was about 7 started crying and screaming. I would say absolutely do not mention the tv’s outside or comment on the kids’ behavior. It does help when it’s not Mom trying to talk some sense in them! I wish they did not immediately glare at or give very audible sighs towards struggling parents and children. I think you’ve touched on the issue that businesses are facing – not all parents are teaching their children the proper way to behave in public. Until we learn better parenting skills then children bans will happen, and I’m okay with that. And, if your child goes to daycare, the last thing you want is drop her off at more “daycares” everywhere you go or pay for a baby sitter. Just an opinion and observation from my part of the world. They just don’t do so for me. But I think we need to realize that there is no cure for cancer, spaceship to mars, highways built, taxes done, planes flown unless we have generations to follow us. * A well-behaved child receives kind and direct communication from their parents. I’m a full-time stay-at-home mom, and on the off chance my husband and I go out on a date, I do not want to deal with other kids. She spent most of the service chatting it up with her friend…, (To their credit, both the pastor and the usher made apologies after the service, acknowledging their poor judgement…. As a mother of two boys (ages 9 and 3), I am All. I think the banning should focus on Human Beings who do not behave with decorum appropriate to the venue. My husband and I took a trip for our anniversary and thought we’d pick somewhere we’d never take the kids that was adult-oriented so we wouldn’t be around too many children. There were times I had to leave the grocery store with him screaming after I had to chase him down. not my thing, but I get it. You have witnessed it yourself. Parents don’t seem to do that anymore they just tune their kids out almost. There are places where it is not appropriate to bring kids; those places are specific to each kid (some may be fine in restaurants and shopping, but not a doctor’s office) and parents need to act accordingly when bringing their kids along. And, it takes practice. My children are always better behaved for other people as well so I know we have taught them well. But it is not silly or does not make the situation worse when someone confronts a parent who needs to take their child out of the public environment. When they become loud, can’t be soothed or become really disruptive… it’s time to go into the nursery! We do not know the situations that the parents are in so please be careful to judge when their kids are acting crazy. We can’t stand to put up with inconvenience or discomfort of any kind. I don’t care what people think either. When they realize they are there, they can look on in awe at my parenting abilities! And if you were a child and had no other means of direct communication wouldn’t you scream and throw a tantrum too? As a parent, how do you feel when you see someone else’s child making loud noise in a store, an airplane, or some other public place? There was a older couple sitting across from us, as their stop came and they were leaving, they told my husband and I how much they enjoyed our boys. Mass COVID-19 vaccination campaign starts, Not wearing a mask is not an option (Part 5). If my child is screaming crying than I take him and comfort him whether it be in the bathroom or outside so that he does not disrupt people around us. no one wants to hear someone else’s screaming kid behind them in the checkout line… let’s be honest. A bummer, but the lesson is learned. I LOVE going grocery shopping by myself, but that’s not always an option. I dread the comments of people telling me my children are annoying. Totally agree! That parent should have been pro-active to prevent the child from being uncomfortable and reacting in that way. It’s too bad that for the parents of children who DO behave that these bans have to be put in place. My husband is active duty military, and often, I’m a single parent with NO family nearby to help or a close group of friends to give me a break every now and then. Exactly!! . I could sense that so many of us around them wanted the baby to calm down not because it was bothering us but because we knew it was a stress for the parents. It’s b/c of parents like this that people don’t want to be around children. But…I DON’T love parents that think we should tolerate their kids running around a restaurant, or screaming in a movie. I don’t go there, but if I did my daughter would go with me and I would never leave her for some stranger to care for. I do agree we see parents spoiling children and not setting boundaries. And I prefer that when children are highly disruptive that parents choose to keep them in a more suitable environment for their needs. Everyone may not be a parent, but everyone was once a kid, so I think this kind of attitude, and the notion that banning kids is appropriate is also disrespectful of their own parents, who had to raise them. I do understand that sometimes kids can get out of hand and that would bother any shop keeper, but it is a tricky line to cross! Our members seem to be less irritated by these things once they think of them as important to someone else) The TV feed is great, in a relationship you might find out why they don’t take avantage of it. If I want to go somewhere, I have to bring my kids with me. Get a sitter or do a child-care swap. Hi Tsh! and its not very far. 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